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senate vote 2014-07-14#10
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- The majority agreed with the bills' main idea (in parliamentary jargon, they wanted to [read the bills for a second time](http://www.peo.gov.au/learning/fact-sheets/making-a-law.html)) but with two provisos - one introduced by Labor Senator [Kim Carr](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/victoria/kim_carr) and one introduced by Labor Senator [Sue Lines](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/wa/sue_lines).
- ### Senator Kim Carr's proviso
- Senator Carr proposed to add the [following proviso](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/senate/?gid=2014-07-14.25.2), which was agreed to by the Senate:
> *At the end of the motion [to agree to the main idea of the bill], add:*- > *At the end of the motion [to agree to the main idea of the bills], add:*
- > *but the Senate notes that the Government has failed to:*
- >> *(a) advise apprentices before the election that they would be abolishing the [Tools for Your Trade](http://www.australianapprenticeships.gov.au/program/tools-your-trade-payment) program, thus leaving [Trade Support Loans](http://www.australianapprenticeships.gov.au/trade-support-loans) as the only form of assistance for the purchase of tools;*
- >> *(b) adequately ensure that clear and easily understood explanations of the loan, the indexing and the repayment requirements are provided to all apprentices in a consistent format, in particular for school-based apprentices;*
- >> *(c) put in place adequate privacy protections for the large volumes of information that will be acquired through the Trade Support Loans Program; and*
- >> *(d) offer:*
- >>> *(i) fair and reasonable transition arrangements for current apprentices; and*
- >>> *(ii) apprentices the option of lump sum payments in order to purchase expensive items.*
- ### Senator Sue Lines' proviso
- Senator Lines proposed to add the [following proviso](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/senate/?gid=2014-07-14.155.1), which was also agreed to by the Senate:
> *At the end of the motion [to agree to the main idea of the bill], add:*- > *At the end of the motion [to agree to the main idea of the bills], add:*
- > *but the Senate calls on the government to determine a method for achieving parental/guardian approval for apprentices under 18 years of age, in particular school based apprentices, at the point of signing up for loan amounts.*
### Main idea of the bill- ### Main idea of the bills
- The bills create the Trade Support Loans Programme that will give apprentices access to a $20,000 loan, like the loans already available for university students under [HECS](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_education_fees_in_Australia#HECS).
### Background to the bill- ### Background to the bills
- Prime Minister [Tony Abbott](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/warringah/tony_abbott) [promised to create](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-27/apprentice-loan-promise-check/5519824) this new loan programme during the [2013 election campaign](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2013).
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senate vote 2014-07-14#10
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2015-01-16 10:22:35
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Trade Support Loans Bill 2014, Trade Support Loans (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2014 - Second Reading - Agree to the main idea (with a proviso)- Trade Support Loans Bill 2014, Trade Support Loans (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2014 - Second Reading - Agree to the main idea (with two provisos)
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The majority agreed with the bills' main idea (in parliamentary jargon, they wanted to [read the bills for a second time](http://www.peo.gov.au/learning/fact-sheets/making-a-law.html)) but [added the proviso](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/senate/?gid=2014-07-14.155.1) that the government should:- The majority agreed with the bills' main idea (in parliamentary jargon, they wanted to [read the bills for a second time](http://www.peo.gov.au/learning/fact-sheets/making-a-law.html)) but with two provisos - one introduced by Labor Senator [Kim Carr](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/victoria/kim_carr) and one introduced by Labor Senator [Sue Lines](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/wa/sue_lines).
> *determine a method for achieving parental/guardian approval for apprentices under 18 years of age, in particular school based apprentices, at the point of signing up for loan amounts.*- ### Senator Kim Carr's proviso
- Senator Carr proposed to add the [following proviso](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/senate/?gid=2014-07-14.25.2), which was agreed to by the Senate:
- > *At the end of the motion [to agree to the main idea of the bill], add:*
- > *but the Senate notes that the Government has failed to:*
- >> *(a) advise apprentices before the election that they would be abolishing the [Tools for Your Trade](http://www.australianapprenticeships.gov.au/program/tools-your-trade-payment) program, thus leaving [Trade Support Loans](http://www.australianapprenticeships.gov.au/trade-support-loans) as the only form of assistance for the purchase of tools;*
- >> *(b) adequately ensure that clear and easily understood explanations of the loan, the indexing and the repayment requirements are provided to all apprentices in a consistent format, in particular for school-based apprentices;*
- >> *(c) put in place adequate privacy protections for the large volumes of information that will be acquired through the Trade Support Loans Program; and*
- >> *(d) offer:*
- >>> *(i) fair and reasonable transition arrangements for current apprentices; and*
- >>> *(ii) apprentices the option of lump sum payments in order to purchase expensive items.*
- ### Senator Sue Lines' proviso
- Senator Lines proposed to add the [following proviso](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/senate/?gid=2014-07-14.155.1), which was also agreed to by the Senate:
- > *At the end of the motion [to agree to the main idea of the bill], add:*
- > *but the Senate calls on the government to determine a method for achieving parental/guardian approval for apprentices under 18 years of age, in particular school based apprentices, at the point of signing up for loan amounts.*
- ### Main idea of the bill
- The bills create the Trade Support Loans Programme that will give apprentices access to a $20,000 loan, like the loans already available for university students under [HECS](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_education_fees_in_Australia#HECS).
- ### Background to the bill
- Prime Minister [Tony Abbott](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/warringah/tony_abbott) [promised to create](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-27/apprentice-loan-promise-check/5519824) this new loan programme during the [2013 election campaign](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2013).
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senate vote 2014-07-14#10
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2015-01-09 16:38:54
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Title
Bills — Trade Support Loans Bill 2014, Trade Support Loans (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2014; Second Reading- Trade Support Loans Bill 2014, Trade Support Loans (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2014 - Second Reading - Agree to the main idea (with a proviso)
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<p class="speaker">Sue Lines</p><p>As I foreshadowed this morning, and as has been circulated in the chamber, I move the amendment standing in my name:</p><p class="italic">At the end of the motion, add:</p>- The majority agreed with the bills' main idea (in parliamentary jargon, they wanted to [read the bills for a second time](http://www.peo.gov.au/learning/fact-sheets/making-a-law.html)) but [added the proviso](http://www.openaustralia.org.au/senate/?gid=2014-07-14.155.1) that the government should:
- > *determine a method for achieving parental/guardian approval for apprentices under 18 years of age, in particular school based apprentices, at the point of signing up for loan amounts.*
- ### Main idea of the bill
- The bills create the Trade Support Loans Programme that will give apprentices access to a $20,000 loan, like the loans already available for university students under [HECS](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_education_fees_in_Australia#HECS).
- ### Background to the bill
- Prime Minister [Tony Abbott](https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/warringah/tony_abbott) [promised to create](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-27/apprentice-loan-promise-check/5519824) this new loan programme during the [2013 election campaign](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2013).
<p class="italic">  but the Senate calls on the government to determine a method for achieving parental/guardian approval for apprentices under 18 years of age, in particular school based apprentices, at the point of signing up for loan amounts.</p><p>Question agreed to.</p> <p class="speaker">Stephen Parry</p><p>The question now is that the motion, as amended, be agreed to.</p><p>Question agreed to.</p> <p class="speaker">Lee Rhiannon</p><p>Mr President, I seek your guidance. We wanted to divide at that point and I was not clear what was happening. Could you put the question, again, please?</p> <p class="speaker">Stephen Parry</p><p>Senator Rhiannon, I will put us to the mercy of the Senate. Let me just clarify that I did call for those of that opinion to say aye and I had one voice and then those of that opinion to say no and I heard no voices. I can only be guided by the chamber. If, by leave—and I am sure that the Senate will agree—I can put that motion again, I will ask for clarity in the voices and if there is a division required I will abide by that. Do I have the concurrence of the Senate to do this?</p> <p class="speaker">Penny Wong</p><p>Yes.</p> <p class="speaker">Stephen Parry</p><p>The question is that the motion as amended be agreed to. The motion we are amending is the motion to read the bills a second time.</p><p>Bills read a second time.</p>
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