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senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by mackay staff on 2014-10-09 15:34:45	Title Description ~~This is a vote on a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2) put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that~~ > all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel be released. This is a vote on a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2) put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that _all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel be released._ The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by system on 2014-10-07 16:21:27	Title Description <p> This is a vote on a <a href="http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2">motion</a> put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> <p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p> This is a vote on a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2) put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that > all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel be released. The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by mackay staff on 2014-02-24 13:15:50	Title Description <p> This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> ~~<p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p>~~ <p> This is a vote on a <a href="http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2">motion</a> put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> <p>For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default</p>. <p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p> ~~<p>For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2. </p>~~
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by Natasha Burrows on 2013-12-13 16:39:42	Title Description <p> This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> <p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p> ~~<p><b>Summary of debate in Parliament</p></b>~~ ~~In response to the question by Senator McEwen~~ ~~<p><b>Background and context</p></b>~~ ~~<p>For a summary~~ <p>For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default</p>. <p>For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2. </p>
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by Natasha Burrows on 2013-12-13 16:39:06	Title Description <p> This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> <p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p> <p><b>Summary of debate in Parliament</p></b> In response to the question by Senator McEwen <p><b>Background and context</p></b> <p>For a summary <p>For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default</p>. <p>For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2. </p>
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by Natasha Burrows on 2013-12-12 08:06:34	Title Description <p> This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> <p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p> <p><b>Summary of debate in Parliament</p></b> In response to the question by Senator McEwen <p><b>Background and context</p></b> <p>For a summary <p>For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default</p>. <p>For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2. </p>
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by Natasha Burrows on 2013-12-12 07:58:26	Title Description <p> This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> <p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p> <p><b>Summary of debate in Parliament</p></b> In response to the question by Senator McEwen <p><b>Background and context</p></b> <p>For a summary <p>For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default</p>. <p>For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2. </p>
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by Natasha Burrows on 2013-12-12 07:42:52	Title Description <p> This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> <p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p> <p><b>Summary of debate in Parliament</p></b> In response to the question by Senator McEwen <p><b>Background and context</p></b> <p>For a summary
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by Natasha Burrows on 2013-12-12 07:32:55	Title Description <p> This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> ~~<p>The majority of MPs~~ <p>The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. </p>
senate vote 2013-12-05#2 Edited by Natasha Burrows on 2013-12-12 07:26:14	Title ~~Documents — Asylum Seekers; Order for the Production of Documents~~ Documents - Asylum Seekers; Order for the Production of Documents Description ~~<p class="speaker">Anne McEwen</p>~~ ~~<p>At the request of Senator Carr, I move:</p>~~ <p class="italic">That there be laid on the table by the Minister representing the Minister for Immigration and Border Protection, no later than Tuesday, 10 December 2013, all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel.</p> <p> This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. </p> <p>The majority of MPs ~~<p class="speaker">Michaelia Cash</p>~~ ~~<p>I seek leave to make a short statement.</p>~~ ~~<p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>~~ ~~<p>Leave is granted for one minute.</p>~~ ~~<p class="speaker">Michaelia Cash</p>~~ ~~<p>The government will not be supporting this motion. I reiterate the words of Lieutenant General Campbell, who, when questioned on the same incident in estimates, said:</p>~~ <p class="italic">It goes to the question of the degree to which an awareness of on-water procedures undermines our capacity to conduct our operations, gives advantage to people smugglers, potentially puts our people's lives in danger and may in certain circumstances undermine bilateral relationships. For those reasons, I think that there is a sound basis for not discussing events that occur on water and to give a brief of releasable information on a weekly basis.</p> ~~<p>The general continued:</p>~~ <p class="italic">I do note a distinction between commentary that might be offered in the media environment and a statement by an official of government that provides certification of vessel arrival and can very much be used in an authoritative sense by people smugglers to promote their business and indeed to encourage people to get onto boats, some of which are quite unsafe.</p> ~~<p>If Senator Carr has a genuine interest in breaking the people smugglers model, then I remind him of the offer of a confidential briefing.</p>~~ ~~<p class="speaker">John Hogg</p>~~ ~~<p>The question is that the motion be agreed to.</p>~~

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senate vote 2013-12-05#2

Edited by mackay staff

on 2014-10-09 15:34:45

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~~This is a vote on a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2) put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that~~
> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel be released.
This is a vote on a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2) put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that
_all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel be released._
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.

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Edited by system

on 2014-10-07 16:21:27

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 This is a vote on a <a href="http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2">motion</a> put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released. 
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
This is a vote on a [motion](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2) put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that
> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel be released.
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.

senate vote 2013-12-05#2

Edited by mackay staff

on 2014-02-24 13:15:50

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This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
~~The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion. ~~
This is a vote on a <a href="http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2">motion</a> put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default.
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
~~For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2. ~~

senate vote 2013-12-05#2

Edited by Natasha Burrows

on 2013-12-13 16:39:42

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This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
~~Summary of debate in Parliament~~
~~In response to the question by Senator McEwen~~
~~Background and context~~
~~For a summary~~
For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default.
For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2.

senate vote 2013-12-05#2

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on 2013-12-13 16:39:06

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This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
Summary of debate in Parliament
In response to the question by Senator McEwen
Background and context
For a summary
For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default.
For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2.

senate vote 2013-12-05#2

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on 2013-12-12 08:06:34

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This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
Summary of debate in Parliament
In response to the question by Senator McEwen
Background and context
For a summary
For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default.
For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2.

senate vote 2013-12-05#2

Edited by Natasha Burrows

on 2013-12-12 07:58:26

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This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
Summary of debate in Parliament
In response to the question by Senator McEwen
Background and context
For a summary
For the source in Hansard see: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;adv=yes;orderBy=_fragment_number,doc_date-rev;page=0;query=Dataset%3Ahansards,hansards80%20Date%3A5%2F12%2F2013;rec=0;resCount=Default.
For the text of the debate see: http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2013-12-05.37.2.

senate vote 2013-12-05#2

Edited by Natasha Burrows

on 2013-12-12 07:42:52

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This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.
Summary of debate in Parliament
In response to the question by Senator McEwen
Background and context
For a summary

senate vote 2013-12-05#2

Edited by Natasha Burrows

on 2013-12-12 07:32:55

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This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
~~The majority of MPs~~
The majority of MPs voted aye in support of this motion.

senate vote 2013-12-05#2

Edited by Natasha Burrows

on 2013-12-12 07:26:14

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~~Documents — Asylum Seekers; Order for the Production of Documents~~
Documents - Asylum Seekers; Order for the Production of Documents

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~~Anne McEwen~~
~~At the request of Senator Carr, I move:~~
That there be laid on the table by the Minister representing the Minister for Immigration and Border Protection, no later than Tuesday, 10 December 2013, all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel.
This is a vote on the question put by Labor Senator McEwen requesting that <blockquote> all incident reports, logs, briefings, ministerial notes, internal communications and other reports (excluding any publicly available documents), in relation to the reported incident that took place on Friday, 15 November 2013, involving the towing of an Indonesian vessel near Christmas Island by an Australian Customs, Navy or other government asset or vessel </blockquote> be released.
The majority of MPs
~~Michaelia Cash~~
~~I seek leave to make a short statement.~~
~~John Hogg~~
~~Leave is granted for one minute.~~
~~Michaelia Cash~~
~~The government will not be supporting this motion. I reiterate the words of Lieutenant General Campbell, who, when questioned on the same incident in estimates, said:~~
It goes to the question of the degree to which an awareness of on-water procedures undermines our capacity to conduct our operations, gives advantage to people smugglers, potentially puts our people's lives in danger and may in certain circumstances undermine bilateral relationships. For those reasons, I think that there is a sound basis for not discussing events that occur on water and to give a brief of releasable information on a weekly basis.
~~The general continued:~~
I do note a distinction between commentary that might be offered in the media environment and a statement by an official of government that provides certification of vessel arrival and can very much be used in an authoritative sense by people smugglers to promote their business and indeed to encourage people to get onto boats, some of which are quite unsafe.
~~If Senator Carr has a genuine interest in breaking the people smugglers model, then I remind him of the offer of a confidential briefing.~~
~~John Hogg~~
~~The question is that the motion be agreed to.~~