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senate vote 2012-09-10#7 Edited by system on 2014-10-07 16:18:07	Title Description The majority voted against a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2012-09-10.270.1 Greens amendment] moved by Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Larissa_Waters&mpc=Senate&house=senate Larissa Waters]. The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.(Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1 here]. This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm. ) ~~Background to the bill~~ The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')(Read more about the Committee [http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/ here]. ) to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.(See [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778 here] for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.) ~~References~~ The majority voted against a [Greens amendment](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2012-09-10.270.1) moved by Senator [Larissa Waters](http://publicwhip-rails.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Larissa_Waters&mpc=Senate&house=senate). The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.(Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [here](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1). This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm. ) Background to the bill The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')(Read more about the Committee [here](http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/). ) to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.(See [here](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778) for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.) References
senate vote 2012-09-10#7 Edited by system on 2014-10-07 16:16:07	Title Description The majority voted against a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2012-09-10.270.1 Greens amendment] moved by Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Larissa_Waters&mpc=Senate&house=senate Larissa Waters]. The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.[1] The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.(Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1 here]. This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm. ) Background to the bill The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')[2] to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.[3] The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')(Read more about the Committee [http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/ here]. ) to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.(See [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778 here] for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.) References * [1] Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1 here]. This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm. * [2] Read more about the Committee [http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/ here]. * [3] See [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778 here] for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.
senate vote 2012-09-10#7 Edited by mackay staff on 2014-01-30 13:51:53	Title Bills — Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Amendment (Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development) Bill 2012; in Committee Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Amendment (Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development) Bill 2012 - In Committee - Tenure Description ~~<p class="speaker">Larissa Waters</p>~~ ~~<p>I move Australian Greens amendment (12) on sheet 7233:</p>~~ ~~<p class="italic">(12)   Schedule 1, page 7 (after line 8), after item 5, insert:</p>~~ The majority voted against a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2012-09-10.270.1 Greens amendment] moved by Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Larissa_Waters&mpc=Senate&house=senate Larissa Waters]. The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.[1] Background to the bill The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')[2] to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.[3] References * [1] Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1 here]. This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm. * [2] Read more about the Committee [http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/ here]. * [3] See [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778 here] for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments. ~~<p class="italic">5A Subsection 507(1)</p>~~ ~~<p class="italic">Repeal the subsection, substitute:</p>~~ <p class="italic">(1)   A member of a Committee holds office for the period specified in the instrument of appointment. The period must not be less than 3 years and must not exceed 5 years.</p> ~~<p class="italic">Note 1:   For re-appointment, see section 33AA of the <i>Acts Interpretation Act 1901</i>.</p>~~ ~~<p class="italic">Note 2:   Section 509 sets out the circumstances in which a member's appointment may be (or must be) terminated.</p>~~ ~~<p class="italic">5B Application of item 5A</p>~~ ~~<p class="italic">The amendment made by item 5A applies in relation to an appointment made on or after the commencement of this Schedule.</p>~~ <p>I have already spoken to the substance of amendment (12) on sheet 7233, it being the need for the committee members to have some tenure to ensure that they can be genuinely independent from both industry and government—really from any sort of bias that may or may not seek to influence their decisions.</p> <p>The amendment I have moved establishes that the committee members should have at least three years tenure but for not more than five years. Again, I have already spoken to the need for this amendment, namely independence, and I certainly hope the government has had a change of heart in the last five minutes and will support this amendment. Sadly, it seems that many of these amendments are doomed to failure; however, I shall it move it nonetheless.</p> ~~<p class="speaker">Mark Furner</p>~~ ~~<p>The question is that amendment (12) on sheet 7233 be agreed to.</p>~~

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The majority voted against a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2012-09-10.270.1 Greens amendment] moved by Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Larissa_Waters&mpc=Senate&house=senate Larissa Waters].
The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.(Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1 here]. This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm. )
~~Background to the bill~~
The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')(Read more about the Committee [http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/ here]. ) to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.(See [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778 here] for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.)
~~References~~
The majority voted against a [Greens amendment](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2012-09-10.270.1) moved by Senator [Larissa Waters](http://publicwhip-rails.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Larissa_Waters&mpc=Senate&house=senate).
The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.(Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [here](http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1). This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm. )
Background to the bill
The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')(Read more about the Committee [here](http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/). ) to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.(See [here](http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778) for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.)
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senate vote 2012-09-10#7

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The majority voted against a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2012-09-10.270.1 Greens amendment] moved by Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Larissa_Waters&mpc=Senate&house=senate Larissa Waters].
The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.[1]
The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.(Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1 here]. This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm. )
Background to the bill
The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')[2] to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.[3]
The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')(Read more about the Committee [http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/ here]. ) to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.(See [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778 here] for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.)
References
* [1] Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1 here]. This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm.
* [2] Read more about the Committee [http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/ here].
* [3] See [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778 here] for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.

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Bills — Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Amendment (Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development) Bill 2012; in Committee
Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Amendment (Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development) Bill 2012 - In Committee - Tenure

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~~Larissa Waters~~
~~I move Australian Greens amendment (12) on sheet 7233:~~
~~(12)   Schedule 1, page 7 (after line 8), after item 5, insert:~~
The majority voted against a [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?gid=2012-09-10.270.1 Greens amendment] moved by Senator [http://publicwhip-test.openaustraliafoundation.org.au/mp.php?mpn=Larissa_Waters&mpc=Senate&house=senate Larissa Waters].
The amendment stated that members of the Committee created by this bill should have at least three years tenure but not more than five years. Senator Waters argues that this amendment would ensure the independence of the Committee.[1]
Background to the bill
The bill establishes an Independent Expert Scientific Committee on Coal Seam Gas and Large Coal Mining Development ('the Committee')[2] to provide federal, state and territory governments with scientific advice on coal seam gas and large coal mining developments which may have significant impacts on water resources.[3]
References
* [1] Read Senator Waters explanation of the amendment [http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2012-09-10.225.1 here]. This amendment is referred to as Greens amendment (12) in the debate and was introduced at 8 pm.
* [2] Read more about the Committee [http://www.environment.gov.au/coal-seam-gas-mining/ here].
* [3] See [http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r4778 here] for explanatory memoranda and proposed amendments.
~~5A Subsection 507(1)~~
~~Repeal the subsection, substitute:~~
(1)   A member of a Committee holds office for the period specified in the instrument of appointment. The period must not be less than 3 years and must not exceed 5 years.
~~Note 1:   For re-appointment, see section 33AA of the Acts Interpretation Act 1901.~~
~~Note 2:   Section 509 sets out the circumstances in which a member's appointment may be (or must be) terminated.~~
~~5B Application of item 5A~~
~~The amendment made by item 5A applies in relation to an appointment made on or after the commencement of this Schedule.~~
I have already spoken to the substance of amendment (12) on sheet 7233, it being the need for the committee members to have some tenure to ensure that they can be genuinely independent from both industry and government—really from any sort of bias that may or may not seek to influence their decisions.
The amendment I have moved establishes that the committee members should have at least three years tenure but for not more than five years. Again, I have already spoken to the need for this amendment, namely independence, and I certainly hope the government has had a change of heart in the last five minutes and will support this amendment. Sadly, it seems that many of these amendments are doomed to failure; however, I shall it move it nonetheless.
~~Mark Furner~~
~~The question is that amendment (12) on sheet 7233 be agreed to.~~